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I want to find curvatures and torsions for the following curves but get stuck with their natural parametrizations ($s$ is natural if $|\dot{\gamma}(s)| = 1$). Can anyone help me?

(a) $e^t(\cos t,\sin t,1)$

(b) $(t^3+t,t^3-t,\sqrt{3}t^2)$

(c) $3x^2+15y^2=1, z=xy$

Update:

Here are my attempts on solving (a):

$\dot{\gamma}(t) = (\dot{t}e^t \cos t - \dot{t} e^t \sin t, \dot{t} e^t \sin t + \dot{t}e^t \cos t, \dot{t} e^t)$ which gives $|\dot{\gamma}(t)| = \sqrt{2}\dot{t}e^t=1$ and the solution for this ODE is $t = \ln\frac{\tau}{2}$.

But if I substitute $t$ with $t=\ln\frac{\tau}{2}$ the result will be $\dot{\gamma}(\tau) = (\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\cos\ln\frac{\tau}{2} - \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\sin\ln\frac{\tau}{2},\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\sin\ln\frac{\tau}{2}+\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\cos\ln\frac{\tau}{2},\frac{1}{2})$ and $|\dot{\gamma}(\tau)| = \sqrt{\frac{3}{2}}$. So for $|\dot{\gamma}(\tau)| = 1$ we should take $t = \ln\frac{\tau}{3}$. Where is my mistake?

Any help and hints will be very appreciative.

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    If you check your answer to the ODE, $t=\ln \tau/2$ doesn't satisfy $\sqrt{2}\dot{t}e^t=1$. So you made a mistake in solving the ODE.2017-02-20

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$(a)$ \begin{align*} \mathbf{\dot{r}}(t) &= e^{t}(\cos t-\sin t, \sin t+\cos t,1) \\ |\mathbf{\dot{r}}(t)| &= e^{t}\sqrt{(\cos t-\sin t)^2+(\sin t+\cos t)^2+1} \\ &= e^{t}\sqrt{3} \\ s &= \int_{0}^{t} |\mathbf{\dot{r}}(t)| \, dt \\ &= \sqrt{3}(e^{t}-1) \\ t &= \ln \left( 1+\frac{s}{\sqrt{3}} \right) \end{align*}

$(b)$ \begin{align*} \mathbf{\dot{r}}(t) &= (3t^2+1, 3t^2-1,2t\sqrt{3}) \\ |\mathbf{\dot{r}}(t)| &= \sqrt{(3t^2+1)^2+(3t^2-1)^2+12t^2} \\ &= \sqrt{2(9t^4+6t^2+1)} \\ &= \sqrt{2}(3t^2+1) \\ s &= \int_{0}^{t} |\mathbf{\dot{r}}(t)| \, dt \\ &= \sqrt{2}(t^3+t) \\ t &= \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{\frac{s^2}{8}+\frac{1}{27}}+\frac{s}{2\sqrt{2}}}- \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{\frac{s^2}{8}+\frac{1}{27}}-\frac{s}{2\sqrt{2}}} \\ \end{align*}

$(c)$ \begin{align*} \mathbf{r}(t) &= \left( \frac{\cos t}{\sqrt{3}}, \frac{\sin t}{\sqrt{15}}, \frac{\cos t \sin t}{3\sqrt{5}} \right) \\ \mathbf{\dot{r}}(t) &= \left( -\frac{\sin t}{\sqrt{3}}, \frac{\cos t}{\sqrt{15}}, \frac{\cos^2 t-\sin^2 t}{3\sqrt{5}} \right) \\ |\mathbf{\dot{r}}(t)| &= \sqrt{\frac{15\sin^2 t+3\cos^2 t+(\cos^2 t-\sin^2 t)^2}{45}} \\ &= \frac{3-\cos 2t}{3\sqrt{5}} \\ s &= \int_{0}^{t} |\mathbf{\dot{r}}(t)| \, dt \\ &= \frac{6t-\sin 2t}{6\sqrt{5}} \end{align*} there is no close form for $t$ in terms of $s$.

You still can find $\kappa$ and $\tau$ by keeping $t$ parametrization \begin{align*} \kappa &= \frac{|\mathbf{\dot{r}} \times \mathbf{\ddot{r}}|} {|\mathbf{\dot{r}}|^3} \\ \tau &= \frac{\mathbf{\dot{r}} \cdot \mathbf{\ddot{r}} \times \mathbf{\dddot{r}}} {|\mathbf{\dot{r}} \times \mathbf{\ddot{r}}|^2} \end{align*}

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    Thank you a lot! I forgot about formulas representing curvature and torsion in arbitrarily parametrization. Even for (a) and (b) it is easier to use them than work with natural parametrization.2017-02-20
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    Natural parametrization is rare and usually looks awful. These cases involve perfect square that ease your work.2017-02-20
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You do not need an arclength or "natural" parametrization to do these computations. It's just a matter of using the chain rule. I've posted about this numerous times on here. Rather than write out another lecture, I'll just refer you to my (free) differential geometry text. Of course, if you have further questions, feel free to ask :)

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    Thank you for providing the link! I will read it to refresh and increase my knowledge. Maybe you have also any texts about differential geometry on smooth manifolds, not just $\mathbb{R}^n$?2017-02-21