I want to find $$\lim \limits_{x\to 0}{\sin{42x} \over \sin{6x}-\sin{7x}}$$ without resorting to L'Hôpital's rule. Numerically, this computes as $-42$. My idea is to examine two cases: $x>0$ and $x<0$ and use ${\sin{42x} \over \sin{6x}}\to 7$ and ${\sin{42x} \over \sin{7x}}\to 6$. I can't find the appropriate inequalities to use the squeeze theorem, though. Do you have suggestions?
Find $\lim \limits_{x\to 0}{\sin{42x} \over \sin{6x}-\sin{7x}}$
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1taylor's always the play with these in my opinion – 2017-01-16
2 Answers
Hint:
$$\frac{\sin42x}{\sin6x-\sin7x}=\cfrac{\frac{\sin42x}{42x}}{\frac17\frac{\sin6x}{6x}-\frac16\frac{\sin7x}{7x}}$$
I provide another approach which uses the simpler limit $\lim\limits_{x \to 0}\cos x = 1$ compared to $\lim\limits_{x \to 0}\dfrac{\sin x}{x} = 1$. Let $x = 2t$ and the given expression can be rewritten as $$-\frac{\sin 84t}{2\cos 13t\sin t}$$ and $\cos 13t \to 1$ therefore the desired limit is equal to limit of $-\dfrac{\sin 84t}{2\sin t}$ as $ t\to 0$. Now it is easy to prove via induction that $$\lim_{t\to 0}\frac{\sin nt}{\sin t} = n$$ for all positive integers $n$ and therefore the desired limit is $-84/2 = -42$.
On request of user "Simple Art" (via comments) I show via induction that $$\lim_{t \to 0}\frac{\sin nt}{\sin t} = n\tag{1}$$ for all positive integers $n$. In what follows I will use the result that $\cos t \to 1$ as $t \to 0$ (and nothing more than that).
For $n = 1$ we see that the claim holds. Let's suppose that it holds for $n = m$ so that $(\sin mt)/\sin t \to m$ as $t \to 0$. Now we can see that $$\frac{\sin (m + 1)t}{\sin t} = \frac{\sin mt}{\sin t}\cos t + \cos mt$$ and letting $t \to 0$ we see that $$\lim_{t \to 0}\frac{\sin(m + 1)t}{\sin t} = m \cdot 1 + 1 = m + 1$$ so that the claim holds for $n = m + 1$. Thus $(1)$ holds for all positive integers $n$. It is easy to extend the claim for all rational values of $n$.
The whole point of the above gymnastics (as compared to the simpler and beautiful hint by "Simple Art") is to show that the current question can be solved by using a simpler limit $\cos t \to 1$ as $t \to 0$ instead of using the slightly more complicated limit $(\sin t)/t \to 1$ as $t \to 0$.
Update: Once the limit formula $$\lim_{x\to 0}\frac{\sin nx} {\sin x} =n$$ is available for positive integer $n$, the current question is easily solved by dividing the numerator and denominator by $\sin x$ and then taking limit to get $42/(6-7)=-42$ as answer. I wonder why I converted the difference in denominator to a product. Perhaps achieving simplicity is not simple.
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0Haha, why prove by induction? – 2017-01-17
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0@SimpleArt: because I don't want to use $(\sin x) /x\to 1$ and just want to use $\cos x\to 1$. Remember that $\cos x\to 1$ deals with continuity of circular functions whereas $(\sin x) /x \to 1$ deals with differentiability of circular functions and hence is at a higher level in terms of complexity. – 2017-01-17
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0Hm, could you expand on the inductive step for me? – 2017-01-17
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0@SimpleArt: see update to my answer. – 2017-01-17
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0Haha, that is pretty neat. +1 – 2017-01-17
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1@SimpleArt: I also added some remarks about your answer. I hope you will like it. See the last paragraph in my answer. – 2017-01-17
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0In my mind, your answer is just as beautiful as mine. :-) – 2017-01-17
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0Say, do you consider yourself a relatively new user? – 2017-01-17
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0Let us [continue this discussion in chat](http://chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/51947/discussion-between-paramanand-singh-and-simple-art). – 2017-01-17
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0Don't you replace $\sin(t)/t\to 1$ by $\cos(t)\to 1$ **and** the more complicated $\sin(nt)/\sin(t)\to n$? I mean, I like your answer, but I don't get the point in avoiding a well-known limit to introduce another more complicated one. – 2017-01-17
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0@anderstood: Please see my last paragraph. My answer should not be the preferred approach of any student. – 2017-01-17
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0@anderstood The idea is that $\sin(t)/\sin(t)\to1$. If this is true and $\cos(t)\to1$, then it follows by induction that $\sin(nt)/\sin(t)\to n$ for $n\in\mathbb N$. – 2017-01-17
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0@SimpleArt Oh I see now: $\sin(nt)/\sin(t)\to n$ is _implied_ by $\cos(t)\to 1$. IMHO, this deserves to be better explicitely stated in the OP. – 2017-01-17