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In the final two chapters of Knuth's Surreal Numbers, both the world of multiplication and infinite/infinitesimal numbers are introduced. The basic ideas of both of these make sense to me, but I'm having two difficulties with the arithmetic of $\frac{1}{2}\omega$ that I'm afraid may reveal a deeper misunderstanding on my part.

1) Multiplication between two surreal numbers $xy$ creates: $$ \langle (X_Ly+xY_L-X_LY_L)\cup (X_{R}y+xY_{R}-X_RY_R) | (X_Ly+xY_R-X_LY_R)\cup (X_Ry+xY_L-X_RY_L)\rangle $$ Later, the value for $\frac{1}{2}x$ is given as: $$ \langle\frac{1}{2}X_L\cup(x-\frac{1}{2}X_R)|(x-\frac{1}{2}X_L)\cup\frac{1}{2}X_R\rangle $$ which follows directly. I'm thrown a bit, however, when $\frac{1}{2}\omega$ is calculated to be: $$ \langle\{1,2,3,4,...\}|\{\omega-1,\omega-2,\omega-3,\omega-4,...\}\rangle $$ Since $\frac{1}{2}\equiv\langle0|1\rangle$ and $\omega\equiv\langle\{1,2,3,4,...\}|\emptyset\rangle$ it seems like the left component of their multiplication should be $$ \frac{1}{2}\{1,2,3,4,...\}\cup\emptyset $$ $$ \{\frac{1}{2},1,\frac{3}{2},2,...\} $$ and that the right should be $$ \{\omega-\frac{1}{2},\omega-1,\omega-\frac{3}{2},\omega-2,...\} $$ Is Knuth just making the intuitive leap that $\{\frac{1}{2},1,\frac{3}{2},2,...\}\equiv\{1,2,3,4,...\}$ or am I missing something crucial about multiplying $\frac{1}{2}$ through an infinite set? I know that isn't a huge leap, and I'm perfectly fine with making it, but I suspect this leads to my more fundamental confusion about:

2) Intuitively it seems obvious that $\frac{1}{2}\omega+\frac{1}{2}\omega\equiv\omega$, but, even when I accept the representation of $\frac{1}{2}\omega$ discussed above in 1), I don't see how it works. It seems to me that surreal addition of $\frac{1}{2}\omega$ to itself gives: $$ \langle\{(1+\frac{1}{2}\omega),(2+\frac{1}{2}\omega),(3+\frac{1}{2}\omega),...\}|\{(\omega-1+\frac{1}{2}\omega),(\omega-2+\frac{1}{2}\omega),...\}\rangle $$ which I think reduces to: $$ \langle\{(1+\frac{1}{2}\omega),(2+\frac{1}{2}\omega),(3+\frac{1}{2}\omega),...\}|\{(\frac{3}{2}\omega-1),(\frac{3}{2}\omega-2),(\frac{3}{2}\omega-3),...\}\rangle $$ and I don't see at all how any of that could be $\equiv\langle\{1,2,3,4,...\}|\emptyset\rangle$. What am I missing?

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Pat Muchmore had the right idea. For simplicity I will use $\psi:=\frac{1}{2}\omega$. You calculated $$\psi+\psi=\langle\{1+\psi,2+\psi,3+\psi,\ldots\}|\{\psi+\omega-1,\psi+\omega-2,\psi+\omega-3,\ldots\}\rangle$$ and want to show $\psi+\psi=\omega$. For this, it suffices to show $\psi+\psi\leq\omega$ and $\psi+\psi\geq\omega$.

By definition$^1$, $x\geq y$ iff there aren't any $v\in X^R,w\in Y^L$ with $v\leq y$ or $x\leq w$.

Now for any $n\in\mathbb{N}$ we have $\psi+\omega-n>\omega$, so there is no $x\in(\psi+\psi)^R$ with $x\leq\omega$ (note that $\psi+\psi, \omega\notin (\psi+\psi)^R$). On the other hand, $\psi>n$, then $\psi+\psi>n$ and so there is no $x\in\omega^L$ with $\psi+\psi\leq x$. We conclude $\psi+\psi\geq\omega$.

There isn't any $x\in\omega^R$ with $x\leq\psi+\psi$ because $\omega^R=\{\}$. And for any $n\in\mathbb{N}$ we have $\omega>n+\psi$, therefore there is no $x\in(\psi+\psi)^L$ with $\omega\leq x$. Therefore $\omega\geq\psi+\psi$ and we conclude $$\frac{1}{2}\omega+\frac{1}{2}\omega=\omega$$

$^1$ I'm working with "On numbers and games" from J.Conway, and don't have Knuth's book at hand, but I'm sure $\leq$ is somehow equivalent defined there.

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    I don't have ONAG or the Knuth book on hand at the moment, but something seems backwards about that definition of $x\leq y$. For instance, I think it would imply that $\frac{1}{2}\nleq \frac{3}{2}$, because $\frac{1}{2}\equiv\langle 0|1\rangle$ and $\frac{3}{2}\equiv\langle1|2\rangle$ and $1\in X^R$ is definitely $\leq \frac{3}{2}$. Am I missing something?2017-12-14
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    @PatMuchmore No, you are right. Luckily I just misread $\geq$ with $\leq$. Corrected the answer. Because we show both inequalities, the error went by unnoticed by me.2017-12-16
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    Ah, eureka! I had thought that the $\leq$/$\geq$ switch in the definition was fatal because I made my own unrelated typo in my notes checking your answer. I converted the $\psi$ part of $(\psi +\psi)^L$ to $\omega$ and kept hitting on the (mistaken) problem that $\omega\nleq (n+\omega)$. Since $\omega$ is indeed $\leq(n+\psi)$ it checks out. Thank you!2017-12-17
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    I can’t seem to edit my comment for some reason, obviously that last sentence should have $\nleq$ as well.2017-12-17
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    @PatMuchmore On the other hand I just noticed I answered the question in respect to your comment on the other answer, without realizing you asked the question itself in the first place. That's why I referred to you in third person at the start of the question :D Also glad I could be of help.2017-12-20
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Your calculation looks right. What you are overlooking is a comment in the earlier chapter which discusses various tricks that help one calculate values. Conway notes that one can often remove elements from Left and/or Right which do not affect the value.

For example:

The Number $$\langle 0, 1, 2, 3 | \rangle$$ is equal to the number $$\langle 3 | \rangle$$ because $0$, $1$, and $2$ are to the left of $3$ and don't affect the value (which is 'between Left and Right').

By the same token, one can remove $\frac12$, $\frac32$ ,$2$, etc. from Left above because there is always an integer greater than the removed ones to force the remainder to be 'to the left of the value'; similarly for Right above.

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    This would be easier to read if you broke it into paragraphs, used LaTeX formatting, and explained everything very thoroughly. At the moment, it is very hard to parse!2017-01-11
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    Got it, that's a great codification of the "intuitive leap" I referred to in 1), thank you. However, I don't think a similar trick helps explain $\frac{1}{2}\omega+\frac{1}{2}\omega$ does it?2017-01-11
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    Even as I'm looking at it, though, I think I see the solution. As we inch higher and higher above $\frac{1}{2}\omega$ on the left and inch lower and lower below $\frac{3}{2}\omega$ on the right we approach $\frac{2}{2}\omega$ or $\omega$ in the middle. Much like I could render 1 with the unnecessarily complicated $\langle\{\frac{1}{2},\frac{2}{3},\frac{3}{4},...\}|\{\frac{3}{2},\frac{4}{3},\frac{5}{4},...\}\rangle$. Does that make sense?2017-01-11