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Trying to get my head around the commutator subgroup. This is an excercise from Artin's Algebra:

Let $C$ be the commutator subgroup of $G$. Prove that $G/C$ is abelian.

Here is what I've done:

Let $xC,yC \in G/C$ then $xyx^{-1}y^{-1}C = C$ since $xyx^{-1}y^{-1}$ is a commutator hence belongs to $C$. But then $xyC = yxC$ so $xC$ and $yC$ commute in $G/C$. This can be done for any elements, so $G/C$ is abelian.

This seems somewhat surprisingly short. Is that all there is to it?

Regards

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    @ThomasAndrews Here $H$ should be normal in $G$.2017-05-17

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For some reason the OP won't post, or can't post, an answer, so summarizing the comments:

$(1)\,\,\forall\,g,x,y\in G\,$ , and putting $\,a^b:=b^{-1}ab\,\,,\,a,b\in G\,$: $[x,y]^g:=g^{-1}[x,y]g:=g^{-1}x^{-1}y^{-1}xy g=\left(x^{-1}\right)^g\left(y^{-1}\right)^gx^gy^g=[x^g,y^g]\in G'\Longrightarrow G'\triangleleft G$and thus the quotient $\,G/G'\,$ is a group.

$(2)\,\,$ Let now $\,N\,$ be any normal subgroup of $\,G\,$ s.t. $\,G/N\,$ is abelian, then: $\forall\,x,y\in G,\,\,xNyN=yNxN\Longleftrightarrow xyN=yxN \Longleftrightarrow (yx)^{-1}xy\in N \Longleftrightarrow [x,y] \in N$ and since $\,G':=\langle\,[x,y]\;:\;x,y\in G\,\rangle\,$ , then $\,G'\leq N\,\Longrightarrow \,G'$ is the minimal (normal) subgroup of

$\,G\,$ s.t. its quotient is abelian -- "minimal" wrt set inclusion --.

Exercise: Explain the parentheses around "normal" above, i.e. show that any subgroup of G containing the commutator subgroup is normal.

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    How can I find the order of $G/G'$?2016-05-31
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Recall that $gh = hg[g,h]$ and that $[G,G]$ is the subgroup of $G$ generated by all commutators. $[G,G] \unlhd G$ because $[h,k]g = g[h,k][[h,k],g].$

The map $G \longrightarrow \frac{G}{[G,G]}$ is called abelianization (precisely because of the theorem we are about to prove).

Every element of $G/[G,G]$ is of the form $g [G,G]$ and this group is abelian because $(g [G,G]) (g' [G,G]) = g g' [G,G] = g g' [g',g] [G,G] = g' g [G,G] = (g' [G,G]) (g [G,G]).$

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It is easy to show that the commutator subgroup is a characteristic subgroup , hence it is a normal subgroup. Proving G/C abelian is straightforward recalling that C is the subgroup of G generated by all commutators.

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    This doesn't have much to do with the question.2013-02-27